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Online Chat with Barry Chamish,

Author of Who Killed Itzhak Rabin?

October 25, 1998

Editorial Note: For clarity and ease of reading, the following chat transcript has been edited to remove technical or logistical issues. The editorial content of the chat itself has been left intact.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

Hello. I am an Israeli writer whose previous book, Traitors And Carpetbaggers In The Promised Land (ISBN 157558017-9), an expose of the secret diplomacy behind the Middle East peace process was published by Hearthstone Publishing (1 800 6521144).

Host Barry_Chamish says:

I am pleased to inform you that my newest book, Who Murdered Itzhak Rabin, which exposes the conspiracy to assassinate Rabin, and the ongoing Israeli government cover-up of the truth, has just been released by Feral House. To purchase book/video in Israel contact

Host Barry_Chamish says:

Initial reaction has been encouraging. The Jewish Telegraph (UK) published the book's findings and added an editorial demanding an official reexamination of the Rabin assassination. Uri Geller wrote an article praising the book in his worldwide newspaper column. Maariv, Hatsofe, and Arutz Sheva released opinions backing the book's

conclusions.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

A hint of what's in the book and video can be found at

This chat will also give you a feel for what is in the book. Thank you for inviting me to be your chat guest here tonight. I am ready to take the first question.

Host Host_Leon says:

Barry, what do you make of my suggestion that the "stain" on the songsheet and its top "mirror" sister were made by pinching, or pressing the folded paper with two fingers (while the blood was probably "distributed" inside? - Truth

Host Barry_Chamish says:

I looked at the sheet afterwards, and your observations made sense. But what does that mean?

compo whispers to Barry_Chamish:

is this a joke?

Host Barry_Chamish says:

Compo, no this is dead serious. Nor is this a conspiracy theory. This is a crime discussion backed by Police, Court, and Hospital records deliberately withheld from the Israeli people.

Zebbles whispers to Barry_Chamish:

How was he killed?

compo whispers to Barry_Chamish:

by whom?

Host Barry_Chamish says:

The Shamgar Commission which investigated the murder on behalf of the government concluded that Yigal Amir first shot Rabin in the back from 50-cm range after which Rabin's bodyguard Yoram Rubin pushed him to the ground. Somehow Amir next shot downward first wounding Rubin's elbow then Rabin's flank.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

The Police lab results show Rabin was shot point blank. This Amir could not have done.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

The Hospital records show Rabin was shot a 3rd time through the chest shattering his backbone. This Amir could not have done.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

Amir shot blanks.

Zebbles whispers to Barry_Chamish:

How was he killed?

Host Barry_Chamish says:

Zebbles, Rabin was pushed into his car where a fourth person was waiting inside.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

We see that person shutting the back door of Rabin's limousine before anyone was supposed to be inside.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

After that, the driver, Menachem Damti, got lost for 8.5 minutes before arriving at the hospital.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

During that time, the murderer was let out of the car.

Zebbles whispers to Barry_Chamish:

sounds like his own people were involved,

Host Barry_Chamish says:

Zebbles, absolutely.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

His bodyguard and his driver were at minimum witnesses to the murder.

Zebbles whispers to Barry_Chamish:

and they created a scene to make it look like an outsider

Host Barry_Chamish says:

Subsequent evidence more than suggests the bodyguard was a mere witness.

Host Host_Leon whispers to Barry_Chamish:

If Yigal Amir was not Rabin's assassin, what was he doing at a right wing rally, and how did the Shin Bet assassins know that Yigal Amir was going to be there at this precise moment?

Truth whispers to Barry_Chamish:

barry, they were even by official version...

Host Barry_Chamish says:

Leon, Yigal Amir was a Shabak agent and they toyed with him.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

He was sent in the summer of 1992 to Riga Latvia on a mission undoubtedly intelligence related.

Truth whispers to Barry_Chamish:

true

Host Barry_Chamish says:

On behalf of the Prime Minister's liaison office, there he received Shabak training. He was no ordinary aggrieved Yeshiva Bocher.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

This guy had a history.

Zebbles whispers to Barry_Chamish:

what's a Shabak agent?

Host Barry_Chamish says:

Zebbles, the Shabak is Israel's version of the FBI.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

They are responsible for guarding the Prime Minister as well as maintaining internal security.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

An agent of the Shabak either obeys its orders directly or is exploited.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

Avishai Raviv, a Shabak officer, was assigned to provoke Amir into shooting Rabin amongst other mischief making against opponents of the Peace Process.

Host Host_Leon whispers to Barry_Chamish:

Well, so he agreed to serve a life sentence? As a part of his job?

Host Barry_Chamish says:

Yigal Amir originally did not agree to serve a life sentence for anything. At his hearing in December 1995 he shouted to reporters that the whole system is rotten and if he opened his mouth it would collapse.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

He shouted that he would be forgiven when the truth came out.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

Then they took him away to his Shabak prison for one month.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

Where threats and brainwashing turned him into a smiling idiot willing to sacrifice his life for an ideology.

Zebbles whispers to Barry_Chamish:

so, Amir was set up to be the fall guy and he kept quiet and went to jail?

Host Barry_Chamish says:

Zebbles, in Amir's testimony to the police and the Shamgar Commission investigators it is clear he is aware of the likelihood that he was a patsy.

Zebbles whispers to Barry_Chamish:

what's a patsy?

Host Barry_Chamish says:

Amir told Police Investigator Yossi Hirshhorn outright that there was a conspiracy and they would kill him if he opened his mouth.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

Hirshorn laughed at him and Amir answered "If there wasn't a conspiracy, why didn't Raviv tell him I was going to shoot Rabin and why didn't they shoot me to save Rabin?"

Host Host_Leon says:

So the forth person shot 3 shots?

Host Barry_Chamish says:

Leon, no the fourth person did not shoot 3 times.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

Rabin was revived at the hospital and the 3rd shot to the chest took place there using Rubin's gun.

Zebbles whispers to Barry_Chamish:

who was the unknown 4th person??

Host Host_Leon says:

If Yigal shot blanks... how many bullets were inside Rabin when he got to the hospital?

Host Barry_Chamish says:

All hospital staff who attended to Rabin according to Zman Tel Aviv magazine have been under consistent death threats since that night.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

Leon, Rabin had 2 shots in his back - one from 20-cm range and one point blank.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

After Amir shot his blanks, numerous bodyguards shouted "they are blanks" (srak, srak).

Host Barry_Chamish says:

"It is a toy gun. It is an exercise. It was nothing."

Host Barry_Chamish says:

What kind of a reaction is that to shooting the Prime Minister?

Host Barry_Chamish says:

The only explanation is that they were told ahead of time that Amir would be shooting blanks and to let him go ahead.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

After which the government would have the justification to order a crack down on all opponents of its Peace Process.

Zebbles whispers to Barry_Chamish:

that's crazy acting non-sense

Host Host_Leon says:

why was the song of peace with blood? did bullets come out of his chest?

Host Barry_Chamish says:

This is just one more proof that Rabin was shot through the chest. Other proofs include

Truth whispers to Barry_Chamish:

if Amir shot ONLY blanks, who shot 2 bullets in the back when Rabin arrived to hospital?

Host Barry_Chamish says:

Doctor Mordechai Gutman's surgeon's report which described in detail the chest wound as well as the announcements of Health Minister Ephraim Sneh and Ichilov Hospital Director, Dr. Barabash, shortly after Rabin died to the media announcing that he died of a broken spine and a frontal chest wound.

Janet whispers to Barry_Chamish:

how about the doctors present at the hospital? They too have participated in the cover-up?

Host Barry_Chamish says:

The Shamgar Commission and the Judges at Amir's trial concluded that there was neither a chest nor spinal wound. How did this happen?

Host Barry_Chamish says:

Because the government sent the State Pathologist, Dr. Yehuda Hiss, to the hospital a couple of hours later to rewrite Rabin's wounds.

GFORCE whispers to Barry_Chamish:

Barry what are you trying to prove?

Host Barry_Chamish says:

I am trying to prove the truth. That is all.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

The doctors no longer speak to journalists. The last doctor who did was Dr. Gutman to Jay Bushinsky of NBC.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

Bushinsky told me that every word he said was monitored and he had to seek approval.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

He was terrified. They don't want to be a part of the cover-up. They were given no choice.

Janet whispers to Barry_Chamish:

the government, meaning Peres?

Da_Saint_ whispers to Barry_Chamish:

It's easy to blame your Government when something goes wrong. But howabout the "Right Wing" people - especially those people that live in the "occupied territory" - don't you think that they have something to do with it?

Host Barry_Chamish says:

First Janet and then Da_Saint.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

Janet, Yes, Peres at the time. However, it did not take long forNetanyahu to become an active participant in the cover-up.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

I was given information at the cabinet level that the 1996 elections were rigged over the Rabin assassination.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

Peres actually won. But in case of such a victory, the truth would have been released by Netanyahu's people.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

The crime was all left wing, but the cover-up since encompasses the entire political spectrum.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

Da_Saint, No, the right wing settlers had nothing to do with it whatsoever. They were victims of a covert war against them.

Zebbles whispers to Barry_Chamish:

That's what I hate about politics and government, there are so many lies and cover ups over elections and political power...it's terrible men can not be of better honor.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

The Goldstein massacre was the same sort of set-up as the Rabin assassination. Goldstein was lured into a trap and was no murderer at all.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

The Kahalani brothers sitting in prison for 12 years for supposedly planning a massacre of Arabs are completely innocent.

compo whispers to Barry_Chamish:

well I think I just heard a nice story, too bad it is based upon a true event.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

There are many victims of this covert plan to shove the so called Peace Process down the throats of both Arabs and Jews.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

And both Arabs and Jews were the victims.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

I am not speaking theoretically. I have the documentation.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

I have the Police Lab Report from the night before the Kahalani brothers were arrested with the so-called massacre weapons in their car.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

The weapons were in the hands of the police the night before.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

The Rabin assassination was just one of many sting operations planned by the Jewish Department of the Shabak, headquartered in Hebron.

Host Host_Susan whispers to Barry_Chamish:

a friend who can't get here asked me to ask this..a few years before the assassination Amir was in Riga, Latvia. what was he doing there?

Host Barry_Chamish says:

Susan, Amir spent the summer of 1992 learning organizing skills in Latvia and probably being totally brainwashed at the same time.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

He returned to Israel and used these skills to be a leading radical organizer of Bar Ilan University.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

There he and Avishai Raviv turned legitimate protest into outrageous acts, thus entrapping numerous innocent and responsible students in crimes they had no intention of committing.

Janet whispers to Barry_Chamish:

was lured by whom?

Host Barry_Chamish says:

Janet, he was lured by the same gang, the Jewish Department of the Shabak. No act was too ugly or odious to be committed on behalf of peace.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

To this day the authorities are spending great efforts to spread the myth that the religious right created an atmosphere of murder which led to Rabin's demise.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

In fact, the left, and I use that term to describe a very few people in the government in Shabak, were responsible for numerous murders including the assassination of Mota Gur, 5 months before Rabin's turn came, the shooting of Hebron Shuk by Noam Friedman, causing at least a hundred innocent deaths.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

any more questions?

Host Host_Leon says:

who shot the video and why was he let to do so by security?

Host Host_Leon says:

that video is the prove of conspiracy

Host Barry_Chamish says:

Roni Kempler is given all the credit, yet he never shot a video in his life before and is a bodyguard in the army reserves.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

Please read my book. His testimony is so riddled with lies that you know he was not anywhere near the assassination scene that night.

Host Host_Leon says:

why did he concentrate on Yigal Amir all along?

Host Barry_Chamish says:

Everyone asks why they would film such an incriminating document. My feeble answer is 99.9% of Israelis became totally convinced of Amir's guilt because they think they saw him shot.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

Well, I saw other things in that film that betrayed the conspiracy.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

Maybe they just did not anticipate me. Now it is too late for them.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

The polls say 1/3 of Israelis no longer believe the government version of the assassination.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

And the protection of Avishai Raviv from prosecution has become a festering wound.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

All because the film gave too much away.

Truth whispers to Barry_Chamish:

Yoav Kuriel alone - or Kuriel + another agent eliminated?

Host Barry_Chamish says:

Heck of a question.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

Yoav Kuriel, according to his social security papers given to me, was a policeman, not a Shabak agent.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

He was murdered on the night that Rabin was.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

but buried 2 weeks later with all his organs removed and the funeral blocked off to outsiders.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

No one knows why they murdered him.

Host Host_Susan whispers to Barry_Chamish:

who brainwashed Amir in Latvia

Host Barry_Chamish says:

No one denies that Amir received Shabak training in Riga.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

Who else could have changed his personality or wanted to. He was a Manchurian candidate.

Host Host_Leon whispers to Barry_Chamish:

Is Yigal Amir's life in danger by Shabak?

Host Barry_Chamish says:

Good question.

I think if he does not die in prison, they will arrange to release him in some surreptitious manner that is also contributing to his silence.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

Yigal Amir is no hero nor is he a Satan.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

He is a weakling who far too easy to exploit.

Host Host_Susan whispers to Barry_Chamish:

a friend's friend knew Amir in Riga, I’m trying to get him to come here

Host Barry_Chamish says:

Host Barry_Chamish says:

One last question.

Host Host_Leon says:

Are you saying that votes in elections were not in favor of Likud at the time and Peres gave victory away on purpose?

Host Barry_Chamish says:

Yes, I got that information while sitting in a cabinet minister's office from both his chief aide and adviser.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

We will conclude if there are no more questions.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

Please read my book.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

And let others know about it.

Janet whispers to Barry_Chamish:

The friend to who Amir confided just had a trial and she was convicted for not preventing the assassination. Why didn't you make your views known at that trial?

Host Barry_Chamish says:

Host Barry_Chamish says:

Everyone who has read it or seen my video or seen me in person agrees the wait of evidence of a conspiracy is overwhelming. And the fact that Amir could not have shot Rabin is beyond doubt.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

Now, we must convince the Israeli government to finally tell the truth or the Rabin assassination will turn into a virus that will eat apart the body of our nation.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

Thanks you all for joining us tonight.

Truth whispers to Barry_Chamish:

You should know that Habber and Barabash were TOGETHER "waiting" for Rabin at Ido Disenchik's house on the night. Why TOGETHER? Because it was there that Barabash was phoned with the news of Rabin's arrival, wounded, at Ichilov. Barab told Habber the news!

Host Barry_Chamish says:

Truth, if this is true, and I have no reason to doubt you, this is incredibly important. Please contact me.

Host Barry_Chamish says:

Thanks again. Bye for now. Remember to get a hold of the book.